Any Old Iron 9:40 Fri Apr 14
I Feel Sick
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 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4412572/West-Ham-s-Upton-Park-Just-one-stand-remains-intact.html I will never forgive the lying cunts who own and run our club for what they've done. It will take years before we recover from this betrayal.
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Baggins
11:46 Sun Apr 16
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Sydney - Sorry but you are drawing totally the wrong conclusion from the size of stadiums and what division a team is in.
Teams with big stadiums have them because they are big clubs, with lots of supporters. The bigger the club, the bigger the resource.......seeing as football is mostly about money, the more resource you have, the higher up the league you finish.
There is absolutely nothing to sugggest that we would be a Championship club if we had stayed at the Boleyn. Throughout our entire history we have been a top dovision side which occasionally gets relegated. A bit like Newcastle, Sunderland and Man City. That will remain the case at the new stadium and it would have been the case at the old stadium.
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Side of Ham
11:12 Sun Apr 16
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PS. The only bit of the flattening that is upsetting for me is seeing the East Stand gone, had many of my best times too in the CR and especially when they gave the whole end of the Southbank to the away.
It was a wronguns ballet at times trying to stay on your feet it was so steep, but all part of the draw to be there.
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Side of Ham
11:00 Sun Apr 16
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Northern Sold 1:27 Sat Apr 15
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Sidey .... in my last 20 years as a STH at UP (CR and BML) when it was an ALL SEATER... I never sat down once during a game... no one did where we was... when we scored our shins got cut to pieces... we fell over people in front... we fell over.. we had a great time.. we never sat on our fat arses clapping politely....
That's right Sold, but the fact there's been hardly any old bill inside for decades and they now just sit in rooms pinpointing trouble for stewards to deal with tell us it went to shit from then.Only last season there was a bloke who kept standing up giving gestures towards the directors box from the lower tier who was quickly ejected and most around gave that look of he's got what he deserves.That just shows even over there it had massively changed to shit as has football as a whole.
It's just controlled at arms length, look at how everyone was going mental because old bill WASN'T there in the stadium earlier this season. That would have been the best day out ever for a home game back when football was an experience to behold!
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southwoodford
9:19 Sun Apr 16
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If it's any consolation, and judging by this season's performance, nothing much has change. We are still West Ham and we are still crap. It's just that now we are crap in a new stadium.
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Sydney_Iron
5:55 Sun Apr 16
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Yes there are no certainties but for my money we would have slowly gone down hill, not sure there would be many who would be happy to be a mid table championship club no matter what they say NOW, in fact the people saying that would be the same people moaning cos we were no longer premiership!
Very few clubs outside the PL with decent size grounds and I think over time that will tell as the gap between big and small clubs grows, Newcastle, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Cardiff and Villa off the top of my head, and I expect in the not too distant future some if not all of that lot will replace the smaller PL clubs like Bournemouth, Burnley, WBA and Hull.
Mind you, another bad recruitment drive in the summer and we may well be in the championship again, although I hope that yo yo we seem to do every few years has well and truly come to an end.
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Private Dancer
5:35 Sun Apr 16
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''I think it was the right decision to move, it was that or a slow lingering drop in our stature and to becoming a championship rather than premiership club'
Even though it will be impossible to know that now, I do think that there would have been a decent chance of that happening. Even though a big stadium guarantees nothing, in reality how many clubs are going to be outside the top flight with a huge stadium with a 60k plus capacity? Probably none. That said, I'm sure they'll be many that would have taken Championship football if we would have stayed at home.
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Sydney_Iron
5:19 Sun Apr 16
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We will all get over it and then look back with rose scented spectacles at how great it was and all the good times, but like all things in “the good old day” in reality it wasn’t quite as great as we remember for the most part.
I think it was the right decision to move, it was that or a slow lingering drop in our stature and to becoming a championship rather than premiership club.
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Johnson
4:09 Sun Apr 16
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Moving to the next level never really interested me, staying true to West Ham did.
Shame it didn't everyone else. Still we've got the situation we deserve now, can't complain as you say. Especially as you all voted for it, I remember having those stats rubbed in my face.
I hope every single one of those people regret doing so.
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Gavros
3:44 Sun Apr 16
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Err meant stuggle next season.
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Gavros
3:42 Sun Apr 16
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Agree the management pointedly failed to "move onto the next level" thanks to their tight/hamfisted attitude to things and it will bite them in the arse if it continues. The summer was a diaster and since has been a borefest of the highest degree. Things need to be rebuilt if we aren't going to suggest next seas on on all fronts.
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Gavros
3:42 Sun Apr 16
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Agree the management pointedly failed to "move onto the next level" thanks to their tight/hamfisted attitude to things and it will bite them in the arse if it continues. The summer was a diaster and since has been a borefest of the highest degree. Things need to be rebuilt if we aren't going to suggest next seas on on all fronts.
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normannomates
3:41 Sun Apr 16
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Gavros 3.26
Good post that
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Johnson
3:33 Sun Apr 16
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Well I won't be, I can't bring myself to support West Ham London and everything that goes with it right now.
Next year's attendance figures are going to be very interesting.
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Gavros
3:26 Sun Apr 16
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Never denied that Johnsonnym, despite your protestations. I've gone when I can thanks in recent seasons partly to other WHOers like yourself which I'm thankful for.
Truth of the matter is that we are all fans and we all have mixed feelings about the move that we have spoken about on a personal basis a few times. You on here play the arch antI OSer, I often for a laugh play the opposite.
We lost something with the move and in many ways it is shit - the gaps being the obvious example. I and you knew well in advance about the shortcomings if the place and the joke that is the management and wider bodies - Newham, the LLDC etc - have exacerbated it with some of the things they've done.
We have for some years now though known we were on this path and it's a case of getting on with it, or not, as you suggest.
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Johnson
3:11 Sun Apr 16
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Given your age that means you didn't have an ST for Upton Park for most of your adult life - something I've seen you loosely try to deny more than once.
Why would you do that?
I was quite upfront when I dropped my ST for a year under OAF, guess I don't need to pretend how much of a fan I am.
Coincidence of course, that you can miraculaously get an ST for West Ham London at the OS.
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Gavros
2:31 Sun Apr 16
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True to a degree Johnsonnym, but the club had already evoloved from the one when we could sponsor the players socks and players could black up for the Christmas do. I'm OK with that, because we as a club have stayed relevant rather than sliding down the league with the likes of Charlton Athletic and Orient. Things change, the Internet happened and all that and things evolve. We can cry about it or we can get on with it. This season has admittedly been a worse one than the last time I had a ST in 94/95.
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Northern Sold
2:23 Sun Apr 16
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fantastic... silk scarves and rosettes all round
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Johnson
2:22 Sun Apr 16
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As long as we're clear you didn't have an ST at Upton Park despite you trying to look down on loyal fans who travelled hundreds of miles who did.
Glad the coincidence of your job changing happened just in time for you to get an ST and become a loyal fan of the new club that sprung up in Stratford.
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Gavros
2:12 Sun Apr 16
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My regular Old Skool appearances started in 1989, so just made the 80s BOAT.
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normannomates
2:07 Sun Apr 16
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The 90s isn't old school
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Northern Sold
2:07 Sun Apr 16
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Was you one of these 30 year olds that went to Uni then Gav...?? Christ on a bike
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